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Shady
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| Posted on 2007-08-01 22:10 |
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I'm not familiar with Dymaxion. Is it more difficult than following the Urbanman schedule? Has anyone ever tried it before? |
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foolonthehill
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| Posted on 2007-08-02 16:56 |
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Buckminster fuller did. He was one of those geniuses who may be the only ones those things work for. I haven't found any successful bloggers online anywhere, and it was certainly too much for me. I mean, I've been trying it for almost a year now... |
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| Posted on 2007-11-12 06:34 |
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damn... that makes me feel bad I'm on day 1 |
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| Posted on 2007-11-14 01:19 |
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"I mean, I've been trying it for almost a year now..."
Few questions:
- Do you ever oversleep ?
- If you don't what's your current problem ?
coi rodo |
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| Posted on 2007-12-14 01:59 |
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foolonthehill wrote:
Buckminster fuller did.
Did he? I know he invented the schedule, but never heard of him actually doing it.
EDIT: forget that. Just found the article about it.
As for myself, I´m having a hard time with this schedule. The waking time of 5.5 hours ist just too long.
(If i could, I would switch to Uberman, but my daily life just doesn´t allow that.) During the first days I had a horrible time trying to cope with that. I´m at day 7, and most of the severe "Zombie"-times have faded.
Yet, there are still some times during the day (i.e.: 6am to 10 am) where staying awake is just impossibe.
I regularly oversleep on my 6am nap. The thought of gettin up in that state of abyssmal tiredness is still unbearable to me.
So what I´m doing right now is actually more of an Everyman with a two hour core-nap.....
However, the amount of time I sleep during my 6am nap ist constantly decreasing (used to be 4 hours when I started, now it´s as I mentioned 2 hours) and I hope to eradicate it completely.
We shall see. Tomorrow my shift starts a 6:30 (which forces me to be at work at 6 and then nap there. ), so I won´t have a chance at all at oversleeping.
Gods help me, this is gonna be hell....
P.S.: pardon my bad english, but we germans rarely have the opportunity to speak or write it, so I´m a little out of practice.
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| Posted on 2007-12-23 08:07 |
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If you want my advice, don't start out on Dymaxion. It's too much of ae rigorous and destructive change to be able to take in at first. The way I see it, you have two options to succeed:
1) You could start with 40-minute naps at first. Getting used to that should be much easier, since you spend more time asleep. From what I've read, the number of naps each day determines how much sleep your body needs. That's why it's unhealthy to sleep for less than 8 hours on a monophasic schedule. After you've "adapted", you might start naturally waking up before a full 40 minutes have gone by. Definitely, you should try to work your way down to the nap times ideal for you individually, since working your way up is impossible with an alarm clock. If everyone needed the exact same amount of sleep (regardless or other factors, such as how much they exercise, what food they eat, how old they are, and how fatiguing day activities have been, how sleep-deprived they are), then everyone would sleep exactly 8 hours every night.
2) Add an extra nap in the middle of the night, when your chances of failing would be highest. Remember, polyphasic sleep isn't some magical incantation that needs to be followed precisely to work. What is important is not switching back and forth between having the nap and removing it from day to day. That, I presume, would throw off your circadian rhythms or something. Maybe just permanently remove the nap when it feels like you don't need it anymore (more than 6 days without oversleeping).
If you've already started Dymaxion, I don't know what to tell you. Either of those options would probably be beneficial towards your success, but you probably shouldn't go for both. If there's a specific time frame that you think you're likely to fail in (like 6:00 to 10:00 AM), you should probably go for the second one. I haven't tried either, so I hope you don't think that I know what I'm talking about. It's just common knowledge that when you're trying to take on a polyphasic sleep schedule, you will be sleep-deprived until you've adjusted. Knowing that, you'd probably want to tweak something. Steve Pavline used option #2 for a while, and he's one of the most renowned polyphasic sleepers around.
Actually, I think that your English is quite fine, especially taking into account that it's not your primary language. Plenty of us Americans are lousy at writing grammatically correct sentences, and can't begin to speak another language...
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| Posted on 2007-12-23 11:54 |
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Thanks for the reply.
As can be seen in my log, I lenghthened my naps to 45min after the first (and really catastrophic) week.
I´m still not totally adapted, but the increased nap time made it much easier to cope with the sleep-deprivation.
During my christmas-vacation (which started yesterday) I´m going to work fulltime as a carer for old people. As I will work the early shift (6:30 to 12am) I will have no more problems with oversleeping after my 6am nap.
The fact that my shift starts at 6:30 forces me to be at my workplace at 6:00 and take my nap there. With plenty of colleagues around the chances of oversleeping are virutally nill.^^
Since I´ll have to work for 11 days straight I´m fairly optimistic that the adaption will be finished by the end of my vacation.
"The heights by great men reached and kept, were not obtained by sudden flight. But they, while their companions SLEPT, were toiling upward in the night."
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| Posted on 2007-12-23 13:06 |
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Good luck! It sounds like you're off to a better start. |
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| Posted on 2007-12-23 14:31 |
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Whoops. I didn't notice the nap length change on your blog entries. Sorry, I didn't mean to be redundant... |
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| Posted on 2008-01-30 23:28 |
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"...don't start out on Dymaxion."
Oh. Whoops.
I actually did choose Everyman as my first schedule, but I would never wake up from the core nap. Plus, more time awake is always better. The reason I love it so much is you get to be up at night. I love the night and everything about it: the silence, the solitude, the fresh chill in the air. It gives me hours to write or play video games or do homework, whatever I like.
Just a few tips:
1. Try to get those intervals even. I'm currently operating on uneven intervals, and it's bugging, but once I make some schedule changes at school I'll be able to round out those nap times.
2. Get 2 alarm clocks. Set both of them. Stagger the alarm times. At first you wont sleep at all, then you'll start to oversleep. Trust me, it helps.
3. Don't listen to the nonbelievers, especially that guy that wrote that big article bashing Polyphasism. Most of that stuff is inaccurate and insulting.
4. Work out! It's good for you, and if you time it right you can wake yourself up or put yourself to sleep with it.
5. Avoid caffeine. You'll come to rely on it.
6. This one is specially for Dymaxion. 6 hours is a long time to stay up alone. While it is more manageable, it can also be much more extreme to adapt to. Took me a good 3 weeks before I even started sleeping during my naps, but it's totally worth it.
Good luck! |
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| Posted on 2008-02-05 13:24 |
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if i knew that it would work, that i could eventually get to a place where i could do it and feel great all the time. . . i would easily and happily keep it up. It's a little disheartening knowing that no one seems to have ever gotten it to work. I'm on day 6 (? don't know how to count days really, but somewhere in there) and it's still rough. not terrible, and i could do it, but my focus is nowhere. I need my focus back if this is going to work. any thoughts? |
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| Posted on 2008-02-25 20:37 |
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Ok, I'm going back on what I said.
1. I just recently read an article saying that instead of staggering your alarms, there's an easier way. Just lay down in bed sometime (not a naptime) and set your alarm for 5 minutes. Just close your eyes and zone out and relax until the alarm rings, then immediately get up. Do this as many times as you can every day at different times in the day for a week before starting Dymaxion.
2. Use caffeine right when you wake up from your nap. After 6 hours, you should come down from the high.
3. And I did even out my intervals 
Happy napping... zzzzz.... |
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| Posted on 2009-11-02 00:08 |
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Pathos wrote:
Ok, I'm going back on what I said.
1. I just recently read an article saying that instead of staggering your alarms, there's an easier way. Just lay down in bed sometime (not a naptime) and set your alarm for 5 minutes. Just close your eyes and zone out and relax until the alarm rings, then immediately get up. Do this as many times as you can every day at different times in the day for a week before starting Dymaxion.
2. Use caffeine right when you wake up from your nap. After 6 hours, you should come down from the high.
3. And I did even out my intervals
Happy napping... zzzzz....
I think I will start with this. 240 naps a day, one nap every half hour, five minutes each nap. Sounds good. |
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| Posted on 2010-01-20 15:08 |
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Well, my first attempt at dymaxion was going very well until when the battle started to get easier and rems were consistent, I smoked weed and pass out and hit my head on a desk and then returned home on Christmas break and decided to come back to my sleep venture. The first day I got back from Christmas to college I got to work, this time with no buddies or logs. I'm on day 11 and my energy is evening out Very nicely. I have 4 condensed 6 hour days in every day is the best way I can describe it. I'm still running into trouble with my 8am nap. I'm sleeping 2's and 8's for 30 minutes. I rarely oversleep it with my 5 alarms but it is very challenging to stay awake often times through the adjacent waking periods. I found someone on facebook who has been on Dymaxion for over 2 years. He gave me this list of tips and shit for it that I felt were obvious but it might be good for someone who this doesn't make complete sense to. The second run at the Dymaxion was far easier for me because I had figured out the flaws in my first alarm system which was the primary reason for my oversleeping in the first attempt and I'm generally better at falling asleep and functioning now. I am at day 11 where people claim that it takes ~14 days to be well adapted and I'm feeling very good, my next nap is in 2 hours and my thinking is sharp and my body feels good. All of these sleep schedules are proven to work, your body is able to adapt if you force it hard enough and it will not kill you. This has been the hardest thing I have ever done in my life and I loved it. The challenge was glorious and I can totally understand why everybody fails this conversion. |
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| Posted on 2010-01-20 15:11 |
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I converted cold turkey and caffeine is generally a bad idea. I've always been a green tea fiend but I've been cutting it out lately. Use caffeine as little as you can and only in the periods you find the hardest to stay awake. |
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| Posted on 2010-01-22 15:30 |
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Glad to see someone is still posting in this section.
Would you mind sharing your tips on Dymaxion, or referring me to the person who helpedyou? I'm doing something different currently that's working for me, but I'm still curious about Dymaxion and might want to give it another try just for the challenge of it. I've just always liked the schedule in theory, and am happy to see it working for someone. |
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| Posted on 2010-02-27 10:40 |
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Hi, I'm glad to see this thread, because the Dymaxion is the best for me, as Uberman is not suited to my college schdule, and I just don't like the idea of Everyman, because I really like the idea of living (sorta) by night. So yeah, I'm jumping right into a Dymaxion, except I will sleep for 40 minutes instead of 30. Saving 5 hours a day is absolutely sufficient for me. 
So I have an entire week (until next Monday) to adapt to this schedule, and I have absolutely nothing that is fixed in time, so I am in total control over my schedule. (exept that it it is better to play guitar during daytime).
if you want to follow my sleep logs, you could see a (successfull I hope) example of an adaptation to Dymaxion. |
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| Posted on 2010-04-16 00:34 |
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I've been trying polyphasic sleep for over 2 weeks, But i made it a little different so i have time to do other stuff, so i sleep 2 hours a day instead of every six hour 30mins i sleep 2 hours in 24hours , so i sleep at 5-6 o clock in the morning and than 5-6 in the evening again 1 hour so that makes it total 2 hours a day, so i think it's closely to the Dymaxion sleep schedule but different. Before that i slept only 3 hours a day core sleep without the need of alarm clock, but now that i am trying this it is extremely hard i can't go 3 days without overslept(most of the time it's 30mins to 1 hour), so i every time i have to start over again. That's because i make stupid mistake like lying on bed listen to music when i'm tired or watching tv while lying on the bed, it is easy for me to fall a sleep , 2 days ago i fall a sleep listening 2 music i slept for 10 hours!!! But Now i know what i Must not do. Today is officially my first day again , I hope this time, i won't made any mistakes. |
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